Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread . The system just looks like a disparate random mish mash of different organisations each running trains in their own way. One overarching brand, with sub brands sitting below it, for long distance services and regional brands all under the GBR moniker, much like we do today with Southern, South Eastern, South Western, Northern, etc. Coaches from different regions could also often find themselves coupled together and trains of 2 or 3 mixed liveries were not uncommon. This livery was well received by enthusiasts but as the Class 56s only hauled freight, it was decided to extend the experiment to a passenger loco. [14] After this date, the passenger versions of Class 37 and 47, as well as Class 50, were routinely outshopped in this livery. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Originally running from 1923 until 1948 when it became British Railway, LNER returned to the route of famous for the Flying Scotsman in 2018 when the . The rail system is a public service not an art gallery. It will replace Network Rail as the operator of rail infrastructure across all of Great Britain (excluding some Valley Lines in Wales and some Merseyrail lines). It was formed from the nationalisation of the Big Four British railway companies, and was privatised in stages between 1994 and 1997. Despite the InterCity brand having been introduced in 1966, in 1985 the word 'Executive' was dropped and the livery was applied to all coaches and many locomotives used on InterCity services. I think you are mixing up ownership with some form of ideological uniformity. They were numbered in two series, D5500-D5699 and D5800-D5862. The WilliamsShapps plan recommended that there will be a single, unifying brand for railways, and it is expected that this will be a gradual rebranding over time. Agree, having at least 'intercity', 'regional' and 'metro' would be good. GBR will develop masterplans for station renewal. There'll no doubt be someone on here who knows, one way or the other. The first Class 31 entered service in November . The Great British Railways Transition Team is developing a range of rail freight growth target options. . The final decision was to be made later in 2022,[16] but the result has not been announced as of February 2023. On the other hand Avanti's branding is awful - there is no "Italian flair" in it at all. From July 1956 the Southern Region began using a 'coaching stock' green that was somewhat darker than the malachite green colour of the old Southern Railway and this extended to former Southern vehicles as well as Mk1 stock. Japan had JNR (Japan National Railways) and now, post nationalisation, it has JR (Japan Railways). (Something that ought to give die-hard advocates of splitting off the Scottish Conservatives pause for thought.) The bottom one is basically Serco era Northern signage, and does look good to me, though I would go for a subtle double arrow in the bottom right as I said earlier, and omit the GBR text. This competition aimed to identify a place with a rich railway heritage, strong links to the national network and significant public support, while creating a great opportunity to promote the location as the proud home for the start of a new era in Britains railways. I'm working on building a GBR brand from the ground up for the next few days (my calendar is completely empty), starting with a logo. I am confident I could design a better package in a few hours, and I am not a design professional. Just like when a new TOC has taken on a franchise, the old TOC name gets removed and the new TOC name gets badged in top, like a big rectangular sticker. Corridor coaching stock and certain express multiple unit classes were painted in Rail Blue with a 44-inch Pearl Grey (BS 2660-9-095) horizontal panel centred vertically on the main windows, outlined by a narrow white line. JavaScript is disabled. Rail Express Systems was the sector of British Rail responsible for transport of mail and parcels traffic. The anniversary of the Battle of Hastings which took place in 1066 was also used in publicity for the line. Also, yes, the actual report has a typo, it really does say 'refect' instead of 'reflect'. https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/912009372292780033. There are some good brands out there - gWr for example is a superb piece of marketing prowess, alongside the "friendly nostalgia" of the Famous Five advertising. A bit like this but without the fuzzy outline on the text and double arrow (caused by MS Paint's paint bucket tool): Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; I had a play around with this, and I agree, it looks. Creating a separate thread for this as it's quite a big topic, potentially. We need more national institutions to give a British shape to life, and GBR should be one of them. I can sort of understand lumping Moorgate services in with London Overground, but LNER to Kings Lynn has been suggested many times without any compelling reason as to why, beyond "something something intercity standard. | Page 27 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. We use cookies. Last week Doug Beattie, the newly-installed leader of the Ulster Unionist Party, hit out at Boris Johnson. They were repainted into blue/grey in the early 1970s. GBR is not quite the same, so they no doubt want it to be seen as distinct; plus, it may not even be possible to call it BR, there might be legal implications (just a guess). But Beatties second charge is more interesting. It's good work (and the previous set). Something timeless. Why? We badly need that on the visual mess that is the railway. Not even all yellow fronted anymore. BRs own history says otherwise. Corridor coaching stock was originally trialled in LNWR coach plum and off-white (nicknamed Plum and Spilt Milk) before Crimson (carmine red) and Cream livery (nicknamed Blood and Custard) was adopted across the network; non-corridor stock was painted plain Crimson. The distinctive angular shape of the HST power cars did not lend itself to applying yellow on the leading face, so the yellow was wrapped around and extended along the side of each power car, although the coaches retained the usual Rail Blue coaching stock livery. the handling/liability of pensions etc. Great Central Railway {} Sample: 002366: Great Eastern Railway {} Sample: 00a550: Great Northern Railway (Great Britain) {{GNGE colour}} Sample: 00645b: Great Northern and Great Eastern Joint Railway {{GWGC colour}} Sample: 47640f: Great Western and Great Central Joint Railway {} Sample: 964b00: Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway There are conflicting view on Britain versus Great Britain. If they are going down the GBR route, which is just nationalisation with extra steps, it needs to look the part (the national part, not the extra steps part). Western. Find out more and ask any questions/give us feedback in this thread . Much closer to what I was meaning (thanks. This livery suited these diesel hydraulic classes, and allowed the Western Region to once again show a degree of independence; it was not applied to any other diesel or electric classes (other than the Class 42/43 "Warships"). Particularly if they are just vinyls on white painted trains. This colour was applied to all diesel and electric locomotives, with the exception of the ends, which were painted yellow to improve visibility, and the underframes and buffer beams which were painted black; the paints being to BSS 2660-0.003 and BSS 2660-9.103 respectively. Here is some variants of my original 'swallow inspired' design. Rail alphabet had the advantage of being clear, legible and was pretty much consistently applied. The XP64 train was used to test technology and carriage arrangements for the planned Mark 2 coaches. Messages: 1,398. The BR that believed in having multiple liveries and brands? Now there's a system others can look up to. If you run across land borders you're going to get it. But it invites an obvious question: what is to be done about it? Recognising this, the Plan for Rail recommended the development of a 30-year strategy to determine how best the railways can support Britain in the future. [4] Normal passenger service franchise mechanisms were amended, transferring almost all revenue and cost risk to the government, effectively 'renationalising' those services temporarily. Non-corridor coaching stock and other multiple units received all-over Rail Blue until about 1980, when most received the same blue/grey livery as corridor coaching stock. In response to this announcement, the Great British Railways Transition Team is looking at changes to support the development of the new industry structure, and considering ways in which the current system can be simplified and improved. Like the Thameslink 700 "can't be bothered" livery. Goodbye. You are using an out of date browser. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. [16] As well as rolling stock and multiple units, a number of Class 47 and Class 50 locomotives dedicated to Network SouthEast passenger services were painted in this livery. Given the furious backlash over the Protocol, as well as the ill-managed disappointment that was the two parties 2010 link-up (under the awful acronym UCUNF), one can understand why Northern Irish politicians shy away from the Tories. I personally like this Lion logo posted by Tim Dunn on twitter a few years ago, Not at all. The livery was applied only to some Class 309 "Clacton" units on the former Eastern Region and to a few of Classes 411 (4Cep), 419 (MLV) and 421 (4Cig) on the former Southern Region. Historic fact is that Roman Britain was England & Wales and the name Great Britain was adopted once Scotland joined, even though today we may refer of GB as just Britain. Aren't best impressions the ones that did the 2015 Virgin East Coast HST? Its rolling stock initially carried the standard Rail Blue (or blue and grey) livery but in 1992, it introduced a new livery of red and grey, with pale blue and grey flashes. In many ways having a 'Railway System' logo (the double arrow) for stations/journey planners but a different logo so people know the train is a 'big' intercity train or a 'small' stopping train is very helpful. Avanti merged with LNWR to form a GNWR brand. Swiss rail. I just see the thing as extremely surface level. Differences should merely be factual, not corporate. Clearly "Great British Railways" does include a bit of "retro" in the manner than gWr does, for example. I personally do not think there should be a standard livery across the network on the grounds that regional identity would be lost. I might take an example railway station (I'm thinking Rugby) and design signage made for that specific station, to see how things could look practically Not convinced. What is of 2020s Britain then? All Regions. Cross Country merged with EMT to form a brand called Midland Connect. I wonder if we might actually see things like "Northern - by Great British Railways" rather than one single overarching branding. A commonly mistake to make, but one that can easily upset the locals! The Transport Secretary announced on 19 October 2022 that the Transport Bill which would have set up GBR would not go ahead in the current parliamentary session.[2]. I would say GWR (single colour) is a far better branding package than Avanti (3 colours). Interesting mock up doublearrow on Twitter just posted: What problem is this supposed to be fixing? But we know that anyway - ScotRail is blue based, as was Regional Railways. In terms of changing the background colour - I was going to go with a navy blue, but then it wouldn't integrate with any part of the design system I had in my head, so I opted not to. Within a period of 10 years, HSTs had three different liveries. The Tories, particulary this present mob of throwbacks, have long since co-opted the "great" in "Great Britain" to mean "very good"and it's xenophobic, imperialist undertones me me want to vomit. Its not as if they need the advertising, nor do their brands carry the historic and emotional heft that the famous schemes of the genuinely private railways did. GW 1 1 Great British Railways This style of livery was also used by CSX Transportation. The devolved administrations, the combined authorities, and the Greater London Authority will continue to exercise their current powers, such as setting fares and awarding contracts, and will remain democratically accountable for this. The standard livery for most British Railways steam locomotives was black, often with a thin red, cream and grey "lining" (trim), while express passenger locomotives were not painted "Brunswick Green" (Which was the former colour of the Great Western Railway) as is often stated, but were painted in British Standards: BS224 "Deep Bronze Green" also known as "Land Rover Deep Bronze Green LR001" with orange and black lining. Suffice to say, an actual English nationalist would not be passing controversial legislation to enable Westminster to spend even more money on Northern Ireland, as this Government is. [16] A public vote was held following the announcement.[16]. Unfortunately, there is little sign that Beattie actually intends to do anything differently, in this regard at least, to the Democratic Unionists he hopes to supplant. Introduced originally by the Great Western Railway, the Travelling Post Office would set out from London in the dead of night and deliver . A railway works best as a single unit. GBR will be made up of five regional divisions, organised in line with Network Rail's Putting Passengers First programme. "Great" means "large", not "very good". It may not display this or other websites correctly. Id like GN non-Moorgate stuff to join Greater Anglia, as they dont fit in LNER imo. The old BR liveries look dated now and have done for a while. The purpose of this call for evidence was to develop an understanding of how much of the current and future market demand for freight could be met by rail, and the role rail can play in the nations supply chains. The Great British Railway - and please, spare us the flag-waving - will incorporate Network Rail (renationalised in 2002 after privatised Railtrack collapsed), ticketing and awarding operator . From 1956 maroon (similar to crimson lake) was adopted as the standard colour for coaching stock, with corridor coaches lined and non-corridor plain initially: later on all stock was lined. The 1948 trials brought LMS Class 5s, and GWR Kings and Castles in lined light green and lined blue, with incorrect suggestions that two different blues were used. Still makes me cringe everytime I see/read 'Great' in front of anything British since this mob got in. Then why was the old version called British Railways, not Great British Railways, and why the change now for the new version if British Railways worked . 1948 -. Eastern, North Eastern and Scottish. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; And although BR did changes, it was still the same basic livery really. There is also a British Standard paint colour BS381C 114 called Rail Blue which was introduced in 1964. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The wholly superior vision of the Campaign for Equal Citizenship is long abandoned. In 1986 the British Railways Board divided its operations into a number of sectors (sectorisation).The sector responsible for long-distance express trains assumed the brand-name . You are using an out of date browser. "Great" means "large", not "very good". Maybe a "way out" arrow similar to Thameslink's station signage could make it more exciting, while also adding a bit more functionality? The history of British Rail's corporate liveries is quite complex. The FT reports: The reforms will still allow private companies to run services but they will instead work under a more prescriptive management contract, similar to the system in place on the London Overground.. But such an approach offers a bleak long-term outlook for the UK. Also, like I said, it's possible that they legally can't call it BR. When British Rail operations were divided into sectors in the mid-1980s, prior to privatisation, a new version of the Railfreight livery emerged giving the sectors individual identities. though we may have to wait for a new govt for that to happen. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; I wanted to go for something modern yet flexible. The iconic London and North Eastern Railway brand - better known as LNER - looks set to be withdrawn again. The livery derived its nickname from a perceived resemblance to the internal appearance of a Jaffa Cake. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. How many people list how attractive a train is when you ask them why they decided to go by car or train? If it was, that format would not be used by: If you need any proof, they've also just done the same with 'Great British Nuclear'. The Great British Railways Transition Team (GBRTT) seeks to deliver the most ambitious changes to our railways in a generation, working with the government and across the rail sector. Famous in York and up and down the East Coast Main Line, LNER could soon be consigned to history - again, YorkMix understands. Livery Guide Great Western Railways/British Railway Western Region. From 1966 until withdrawal, Pullman Coaches were also painted in the reversal of the normal coach livery, with the blue and grey areas transposed. WMT (operationally separate from LNWR by this point) brand to be used additionally on XC services to Nottingham and Leicester (stopper only). Can you only be professional if every rail person works in the same uniform? And Great Britain is more often than not used to mean the whole of England/Scotland/Wales, excluding Northern Ireland - a legacy of the Kingdom of Great Britain, which existed from 1707 to 1800. Search for a trade mark - Intellectual Property Office (ipo.gov.uk), https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/912009372292780033, Somewhere along the West Anglia Main Line. The attachments illustrate this. Then theres the question of livery. It may not display this or other websites correctly. There just isn't room on a well functioning railway for true competition, so you might as well focus on the passenger experience, not the rail operator experience. Thats a bit like saying everything has been invented, no need for anything more. The text won't be centred vertically with the logo. Class 01 01002 inside Holyhead Breakwater shed in early black livery. Class 52 No.D1015 restored to 1960's Western Region Maroon livery. English regions, Scotland, and Wales will have their own variants, but these will still emphasise the national nature of GBR. It is known as Great because it is the largest island in the British Isles, and houses the countries of England, Scotland and Wales within its shores. It will also control the contracting of passenger train services, the setting of fares and timetables, and the collection of fare revenue, with the exception of services wholly within Scotland and Wales. The whole GBR thing is complicated as you have ScotRail and TfW already as separate brands that won't change, yet using "Rail England" or whatever is going to provoke outrage where services run by "English" operators go into Scotland and Wales (which rather ignores the same the other way round!). Great British Railways: The Williams-Shapps Plan for Rail (print version) Ref: ISBN 978-1-5286-2465-7 , CCS0321182446 05/21 , CP 423 PDF , 55.8 MB , 112 pages Order a copy [9][10] Several other Class 47 locomotives, some Class 31s, and even some DMU cabs, were subsequently also painted by Stratford with grey roofs, the variation becoming something of a trademark for the depot. I think it'll be more like East Coast (or whatever), the full height of the parallel tracks. Home Forums Great Britain is not a country; its a landmass. GBR is similar enough to channel some continuity with BR but distinct enough to admit it's a different entity. For example, GBR will apparently inherit from Network Rail the duty to run and plan the network, as well as providing online tickets, information and compensation for passengers nationwide. This opens up the possibility of a national ticketing app, with the Great British Railways branding. "Image of No.47163 with Silver Jubilee Union Jack", History of Blood and Custard (Crimson Lake & Cream) Livery, Information on Freight Locomotive Liveries & logos, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Rail_corporate_liveries&oldid=1136093401, Articles with unsourced statements from December 2014, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. Construction of the first locomotive was completed in the final week of September 1957, and the handing-over took place on 31 October. Due to the consequent muddle of liveries, many trains began to get an untidy if not tatty appearance which added to the run-down image of the railway. Most of this nostalgia is from people who aren't old enough to remember just how rubbish latter day BR often was. I reckon a simple logo like the one youve depicted will be what we see. And it that light it is intriguing that Ministers have decided to take a step back towards a national rail network with the launch of Great British Railways (GBR). [13], On 5 February 2022, the Department for Transport launched a public consultation for the location of GBRs headquarters. Scottish rolling stock not covered by the ScotRail livery (generally those on secondary services) received the Regional Railways livery, but with "ScotRail" branding. Nothing to bring it all together. But the move still opens up some possibilities which Michael Gove and the rest of the Governments Union strategy team should consider. Blue Pullman in grey and blue livery arriving at Bristol Temple Meads in 1973. And although BR did changes, it was still the same basic livery really. Although from the mid-1960s to the 1980s the organisation was associated with "Rail Blue", a number of other schemes were also used, especially when it was split into operating units or "sectors" in the mid-1980s. I can sort of understand lumping Moorgate services in with London Overground, but LNER to Kings Lynn has been suggested many times without any compelling reason as to why, beyond "something something intercity standard", This idea often seems to pop its head up. I don't see what's wrong with Rail Alphabet which is rather older than the 1980s - to be frank the branding shouts 60s, a period of branding I personally like but obviously that *is* personal - although you could just use Frutiger to keep the tie in with the other large national service, the NHS ( who used to use Rail Alphabet too ). [5][6], The new GBR organisation was proposed under the WilliamsShapps Rail Review,[7] which was published as a white paper on 20 May 2021. There have also been subtle font changes. Great Western Railways/British Railway Western Region. 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