You must log in or register to reply here. 20+ is for 10mm. I'm going to look in to some of your suggestions and, if all else fails, put another few hundred rounds through it and see if it persists. Eject it. UPDATE! Is this RSA going to $hit already? If the slide goes into battery with this test, you've got other issues. check the recoil spring. Is this how it supposed to function? This did the trick. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. Limp wristing one handed wasn't the issue as it happened with both hands first. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. Sometimes you just need to oil them and rack the slide a few hundred or thousand times to break it in. Could be ammo related. If that doesn't work I would also suggest installing a heavier recoil spring and a heavier trigger spring. BTW, it fired and function 100% last night for 250 rounds with the spring installed incorrectly. I should have added this in the OP. If the problem gets worse that would be another indicator. Lord, make me fast and accurate. Your previous content has been restored. I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. thats one of my fears. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. The Glock in question is the G-30SF .45ACP. Knock on wood but I think I may have figured it out with help from many of your suggestions. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. I will say that I just set up a new Zev Glock 17 with RMR, and my usual loads ran the gun just fine, but (without checking) the Zev slide seems lighter than the OEM Glock one it replaced. The hit on the primer was a solid hit, dead center on the .45 case that blew out. I was not really paying attention to what he did. I noticed that even after one dry-fire, the recoil spring assembly drops down a little bit when I take the slide off the frame. My friend is having an issue with his 80% glock 19. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. One new winner* is announced every week! Maybe ne messed something up in the slide. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Is it safe to shoot? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. It seems like it gets caught on something when you hold the trigger back, like to test the reset, and then when you release the trigger the slide eases forward on its own. I must thank everyone for the replies, you all are the best. Never had an issue with the factory barrel. I noticed that sometimes when I shoot, it will not go into battery (cycles fine otherwise) until I release the trigger. So w/o any round the chamber, pull the trigger back and hold it, then ease slide back and look for the slide to raise up some. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. It has failed to return fully to battery once but every other time, it's a brief hesitation then it snaps into battery. I ordered a pierce +0 grip extension that should take care of the pinch and I'll only use round nose in it from now on. Pull the slide about 1/2" to the rear and let it go. BrianEnos.com Did you try having someone else shoot it? It's as if the holding of the trigger is holding back the slide somehow. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. Great info thank you. If so, look for interference or binding during feeding. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. Clear editor. is your locking block seated correctly? This is a brand new firearm and before you fired even one round down range you took it apart and modified it thus you have no baseline performence to know what the firearm was doing before you "improved" it. In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. Then run it like you sole it and it will work fine. If I sling shot the slide it works fine but I can't remember any of my other Glocks having problems getting them to go back into battery while riding the slide(when dry firing). Grant me victory over my foes and those that wish to harm to me and mine. Hope you were able to get yours sorted out. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. This is only going to be used at the range. It did shoot fine. Have you tried it with the factory barrel? The Barbie dolls are mine. The problem is once I pull the trigger, and the slide racks either from firing or manually, it won't return fully to battery while the trigger is held back. Ok, then 2k rounds isn't outside the realm of possibility for the spring to start failing the spring test. I think I had a similar problem once. If not HELP PLEASE! Ohthis is all with the muzzle pointing straight up. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. On a defensive weapon, quite acceptable. Your previous content has been restored. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Glock 19 w/ LWD threaded bbl not going into battery with trigger depressed *Fixed*. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Usually a problem in the op rod channel or a rail problem. Let not my last thought be If only I had my gun; and Lord if today is truly the day that You call me home, let me die in a pile of empty brass. Could be too long and hitting the extractor bar/spring thingy and not letting the extractor get up over the case rim. I may have to get out a Glock and take a look. I haven't fired it yet, but all of the dry functions now work as well as the recoil spring test!!! The last thing you want is to damage it so it's inoperable. I am shooting my handloads right now it is 124 but will go back to 115 once this batch runs out. A slight adjustment to the crimping die corrected the problem. I have 2 Timneys installed, one on a 34.4 & 34.3. Upload or insert images from URL. Paste as plain text instead, Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. While dryfiring; with trigger depressed, when I pull the slide backwards about half way to reset it, the side won't go into battery. The problem is, that when I keep the trigger depressed, the gun sometimes hesitates when returning to battery about 1/4" from seating. I had a problem like that in my G34 when I was shooting it. It was a good deal, and now I know why. It definitely had the issue less today (not every mag) but its still doing it. Do you have a Glock Armorer orange endplate that allows you to see the striker trigger bar engagement?. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Several years ago a local Glock shooter told me Lone Wolf is what he used. I bought a LW threaded barrel direct from Gemtech last year for my suppressor. Be sure to check out our gun classifieds where you can buy, sell or trade your gear. Others who know more might add some but I think it's not a problem and will wear in with use. A couple thought on the trigger- if you work on the sear engagement, proceed with caution. The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I do not recommend using a dremel on that. I stripped the entire frame and can't seem to find the issue. I am still useing the stock recoil spring and striker spring. Back to the G19m and several more failure to fires. Handy to have this around while you're tinkering A forum community dedicated to all New York firearm owners and enthusiasts. Display as a link instead, I have to say that with a little tuning my Timney triggers run like no other Glock trigger I have owned and they are really a game changer for Glock pistols if you look closely at how they function! Ive tried swapping the extensions to different mag bodies for what its worth and the result is the same. I will look into buying some calipers. I am finding that especially when dry-firing, even when I am careful to let the slide "slam" shut, the slide hangs up right before lockup. Timney should be a little more straightforward with their instructions. can your extractor move freely? Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I plan on winning the lottery soon so I'll have much more free time in the future. Any update on this? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Yes i am. To check the recoil spring for wear I was told to remove the magazine and empty the gun. Grab the slide by the serrations and ram the web of your shooting hand into the cradle of the frame as hard as you can until it unjams. Haha. If so swap slides and eliminate the slide being the issue. Powered by Invision Community. Is this normal with these mods? What is the length of your round, bullet type, and powder/charge for the reload? Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin. Great info! Its the archer not the arrow i know, but i was immediately more accurate with the timney. "Laws that forbid the carrying of armsdisarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimesSuch laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." what I was trying to reference was the ' striker safety spring'. I filmed one handed just so that I can get it on video. I've read through a lot of the big thread on the Timney Trigger, and have searched, and haven't been able to find similar malfunctions happening with the Timney. If you really want to fly, get out of the plane. This may sound silly but when I was new to glocks I thought the pin in the grip frame was only if you used the extended back straps. The trigger bar and connector are polished but no metal reshaped or removed. Would suggest taking the slide off, checking to see the position of the spring. Display as a link instead, Who knows. I run Zev guide rods and adapter rings on my Gen4 17 and 21, along with ISMI recoil springs that are 15lb rated. A bit off the Timney topic, but you might try a Lone Wolf connector with the Overwatch trigger. I am doing my Armorers class this coming week and planned to bring up the question. It runs fine when shooting but it you ease the slide forward it stops and does not go into battery unless the trigger is moved forward. If I let It slam shut there is no problem. Nick29 We also have Glock related articles like Tools Used . I knew what it felt like from a second 17 I own, so I knew that was the route I wanted to go. plunger spring or firing pin spring so i would leave the alone. How much did you need to take off? From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Check for it. You should buy one of these if you don't already have one. Clear editor. It is one of the dual captured springs, so there doesn't appear to be much that can be done to "fix" anything. Once I put the stock one back in no problems. 2. the Trigger spring may not have been re-installed properly causing the sear to hang when the slide tries to return to battery I just noticed that in my previous post that the word 'Spring' sprung out of the post. With that said I dont really see how your issue is being caused by the trigger. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I've been running Glock pistols since they came out with the G21 in .45acp over 30 years ago, that's when I sold my Colt 1911 and never looked back. 1. Everything is right in the world of Glock again. The test I use is to take an UNLOADED gun and hold the trigger back, rack the slide back, then let the slide forward with my handto the point just before the barrel starts to rotate up, then I release the slide. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. The problem is when the slide slams forward. I will let everyone know what I find out. That's been my experience. Thanks. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Just got my slide back from being milled for dp pro and does not go into battery every time. Just wanted to point out that you can limp wrist with both hands on the gun and if everything is stock like you said, and you truly believe it has only been fired once, I default to user error. "first thing i would check is your connector tension, if there is too much tension it will restrict slide movement". the sig comment was really a non sequitur. I agree with comments a few others have already made that Timney triggers are not necessarily a simple drop in. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. I just replaced my G26 recoil spring. The plunger spring somehow got turned sideways. What happens when you let the slide slam forward? I have used them in several Glocks and found them to give a light pull while also giving a crisper break and feel. Glocks are pretty simple really. A Glock is one of the easiest pistols to work on and we have pleanty of content for you to learn more about this pistol. JavaScript is disabled. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. I have never really seen the need for an "armorer" when working with my Glocks. Clear editor. Your link has been automatically embedded. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. You may not post anything that is remotely related to, or tangentially related to, sales, deals, trades of firearms, ammunition, or explosives Per Reddit's Policy r/Glocks, Press J to jump to the feed. What Argyle said sounds about right. The tools. I check the recoil spring from time to time the first way Vincent mentioned. -Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria, This is a decent video to check out to double check. There are too many to quote, so I will just address the points. I'm kinda an apartment dweller with more Barbie dolls than tools (they are my daughters. Upload or insert images from URL. I am making sure not to ease it forward. I only shoot factory ammo. Buy some higher power factor ammo for the next (200) rounds. That is like test driving your car with the engine off then complaining of poor acceleration. The problem was a Ghost firing pin safely spring. I couldnt be happier. I have Timney triggers in two Glock 17 Gen 4 MOS pistols that I run in USPSA CO. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. This may sound crazy but if you or a buddy have a tac light slip it on the rail and try firing again. Do the RSA's need lube? After replacing all the springs and detail cleaning everything with no luck, I was eventually told to replace the extractor. Assuming you called Glock, how did they respond to this issue? With Timney I can set off small rifle that I could not with my Glock trigger. Its been awhile but isn't that a test on the glock holding the gun upright and dropping the slide with the trigger held? My participation level isnt at the point where a dedicated backup gun makes sense so i dont have another gen 5 to compare, this might be the thing that gets me to try a sig though. I mostly shoot 147gr Federal American Eagle. I don't know what the freaking problem is with my gun not going back into battery. Wish I could look at it directly. This isn't an issue when practicing slow fire but rapid fire would be a problem. Ive had to bump up my striker spring to get their a few boxes of really old PMC primers that came my way. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. If it were me I would use a calipers to take some measurements of your OEM slide rail slots from front to back versus your new Suarez slide front to back,I suspect you will discover differences. Glock slide not going into battery, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK-5Fw3yjcM. This allowed the rear trigger housing to raise up and give me battery/jamming issues as well. A couple weeks ago I installed a Timney Trigger with the red return spring. So let's make sure we understand this situation. What does the extractor look like? One way to discover if it is or isn't the problem is get out your calipers and measure along the slide rail slots in many places for each slide rail slot and then your front locking block slide rail and rear slide rails and the numbers will tell you if it's the problem or not. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. I'm in California), but then it stops going forward just short of going into battery. Just a thought. Now I admit I am not sure if this is happening when i take the slide off, but I am guessing not. You may post anything as long as it is related to the Glock line of pistols, and you are not spamming our sub with your advertisements, sales, YouTube channel. Then again, I would caution folks not to expect any new trigger or trigger part is going to be a simple drop in item. When I got the first one for my 34.4, I had multiple issues that I couldn't resolve, so I got my backup 34.4 dropped that same trigger in and it ran perfectly first time in. Also do you have another 17 handy? I thought of that, but wouldnt a heavier (ie: factory) spring make the issue more likely?, since with the timney its getting cocked as the slide returns to battery? Thanks for all the feedback everyone. I noticed this after a cleaning. I put some vibratite on the screw and am going to head to the range to test it in a few minutes. I have not stripped the slide but I'm sure I could figure it out if the issue is there. Everything else seems to be working fine. My current set-up is a glockstore tungsten guide rod w/ 13lb spring, TTI Grand Master spring and connector kit, and SRO on a forward controls design plate. It won't load a round. I had this with my first gen P80. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. update looks to be the coating in tight paces, there is some ware marks on the slides where is contacts the frame. Is this RSA going to $hit already? The gun has about 11,000 rounds through it. Matter of fact, I have a couple of triggers from Charlie Vanek that he used a Lone Wolf connector in that he had tuned up. By February 21, 2022 in Glock. I am pretty familiar, but I work with a Glock Advanced Armorer and even he is a bit stumped. LW barrels are drop in, but they really are more of forced fit. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. 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